Bernard Hopkins

I totally agree. Had a white boxer said the same in reverse, the media would have been all over this.
There should be no excuses. Some of these guys think that they should be treated like Muhammad Ali, but what they fail to recognize is that Ali was a man of his time and in today's society Ali would certainly done and said the things he said 3 decades ago.

I just hope that the "white Boy" if you will put a good licking on him.. and by the way, I am not white.

Mr Hopkins is in dire need of a mentor, someone to guide him through the mine field of life. His foul mouth just blew himself up. It is my humble hope that the entire media hold Mr Hopkins accountable.

It's sad that this is what black youths in our country are looking up to as a role model. I'm not surprised that he refused to apologize. It would've required him to be an intelligent, brave, and respected athlete, which he is obviously NOT!

What he said was insenstive, racially charged, politcally incorrect, and all the other things that people have posted. If that is how he feels towards white boxers than so be it. He spoke his mind and did not dress his comments up for the general public or media. People are offended and theres good reason for that I suppose, some people have very thin skin. As a white boy myself I just say prove it. The way of the world has a weird way of humbling people and I dont believe that he will beat Joe. Then all those little people who got their feelings hurt can share the victory with the white boy from Britain. Its not right for him to single out race, just as it isnt right for a white man to do the same thing towards a black man but lets get real people. It is what it is, I applaud the people who keep tabs on right and wrong in their own lives and strive for righteousness rather than pointing out other peoples defenciencies in the morals department.

I agree that the comment was racially inappropriate and insensitive. However to equate a black man using the term white boy with a white man calling a black man boy, is simply ignoring US history. White's called black men "boy" to vocalize their superiority. The term boy was used as part of the language of oppression, if you will. The language was supported by real oppression in the form of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and discrimination. What we are discussing is power. Language without power is like spitting in the wind. These are two boxers. one should probably learn some history.

So what I hear Jonathan saying is If it comes from a black person it isn't racist, only when it is spoken from another race. Double standards??

This guy is dirt and trash. When he fought Tito Trinidad he took our puertorican flag to the floor. That was disrespectful. This guy deserves nothing from anybody.. only good punches from Calzaghe.

His comments were ignorant and wrong, period! There shouldn't be a double standard and I don't care what happened in history regarding past treatment etc. It's unaccpetable and just reinforces why some boxers are considered thugish.

How come people don't get this upset over "redskins"? Perhaps we all need a history lesson.

Where's Jesse Jackson? Where's Al Sharpton? The head of the NAACP? Maxine Waters? Oh, I see...the silence is deafening...

He's a boxer, not a politician. He should be able to say whatever he wants. If you don't like it, don't listen.

It's not racial...just factual. Joe Calzaghe is a "white boy" and he's probably proud of it, I know I am.

It is generally a well know fact about boxing that there have not been very many (very few) white boys that reached a high level of success in professional boxing. It would be much more embarrassing for BH to get his ass handed to him by a white boy than another brother, hispanic or other minority.

It's almost as bad as getting your ass kicked by a woman to BH....seriously.

racism only applys to white people!!

Greg makes a great point.

Hopkins is an illiterate moron. Nobody listens to this piece of trash. He's just another turd floating in a bucket of crap.

I think the comments made by Hopkins were completely out of line. I agree with the majority of the comments here. Had a white man made the same comment you would have had nuts like Al Sharpton jumping up and down. Hopkins is a washed up fighter trying to sell tickets. He's an idiot who should apologize. And by the way, i'm not white either.

Just ignorant. Double standard. I hope Joe hands him his ass on a platter! If Hopkins was any kind of man he would apologize for his racial comment.

Wrong is wrong. It makes no difference if it's a politician, law enforcement official, or the clerk at the local grocery store – and tolerating such a statement just shows that we have a long way to go on all sides to accomplishing our goal.

A racist comment is a racist comment. Regardless of what has taken place in the past - we have all taken a stance on what is appropriate and acceptable in the present. Any comment that makes reference to a person's race, creed, color, ethnic origin, or sexual orientation in a derogatory manner is just wrong.

I really have to laugh when I read comments, mostly posted by "White" people, I'm sure, who are so EAGER to jump on the "wrong is wrong" and "the press would be ALL over this if a White guy said the SAME thing about a Black guy" bandwagon. Are you kidding me? Really, it's hilarious. Read what JONATHAN posted. He is TOTALLY correct. Let me put it another way. Lets say you were Irish, and somebody called you a "chink". Now, I ask you, would that BOTHER you ? NO. NO. and NO. And please don't try to get righteous and say it would because it just wouldn't. And why is that ? A. You aren't chinese. B. Neither you, nor your family, nor your ancestors have ever been humiliated or enslaved or ever been the butt of a "Laundry" joke. So, it just wouldn't bother you. THAT's what it's like when a black person says something like that to white people. When the day comes (or rather the 400 years) when black people have enslaved, humiliated, raped white female slaves practically in front of their husbands who were powerless to do anything about it, etc etc (see the movie ROOTS if you need more information) THEN, white people will have "earned' the right to call black people "racist". By the way, I'm half-black/white, so I know what I'm talking about. Black people have called me "white boy" for years when I was growing up. It didn't bother my anymore than if they had called me a "poor bastard" or "son of a bitch". But you let a white person have called me the "n" word, and the feeling, the sting, was palpable, because it simply MEANT SO MUCH MORE. Get it now ??

You know that part of the problem is the fact that people have lost the ability to distiguish the difference between things that are "out of place" such as Hopkins statement. C'mon you guys know that he wasn't really being racist and that he is just doing what Hopkins does before fights. Yes, I agree that if the shoe was on the other foot, and it was said by a white man about a black man, that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be on every talk show in America protesting. As a white person who is tired of that, I have to admit I felt no type of disrespect or racism from hearing Hopkins say that. I really think that be crying about this sh*t is contributing to the problem. Oscar de la Hoya once said when asked about his upcoming fight plan: I'm going to take it to his body. African Americans can't handle body punches. It sounded bad, but you knew that somehow Oscar wasn't being racist. Trust me, you'll know a racist when you see one.

I have to agree, if this was a white fighter the media, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP would be all over it. Lets face it when blacks do it it is okay when whites do it, its racism GET REAL wrong is wrong. By the way I am a black man.

I'm glad Brian can read my mind. The poster is part of the problem, certainly not the solution.

Brian you are a damn disgrace ... you feel mankind should sit back and kiss the black mans a$$ for the next thousand years to make up for what happened years ago? They sure as heck don't deserve a "free ride" in life so they can sit back and have people cater to their needs ... From your ignorant comments black people can not be racist ... who the heck are you kidding ... are you really that ignorant?!? The only reason racism is still alive is because of people like YOU, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson who turn a blind eye when it's one of their own making stupid comments ... if they were true believers in ending racism, they would denounce Hopkins remarks ... racism doesn't exist with just one race; it's a world wide problem that inflicts EVERY race ... wake up before your ignorance infects your children and those around you

This is rediculous. Somebody call Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson let's see how they handle this. I bet you that they don't want to touch this topic with a 10 ft pole. It would ruin there credibilty with the african american society. White people in this county have civil rights too. The comment made by Bernard Hopkins was a direct reflection of him thinking that is superior to a white fighter. That my friends is a RACIST comment. Oh, yeah and Mr. Brian Knight your comparison for the Irish man comment "Let me put it another way. Lets say you were Irish, and somebody called you a "chink". Now, I ask you, would that BOTHER you ? NO. NO. and NO." is comparing apples and bananas. Bernard Hopkins made a comment about a white fighter to a white figher, it doesn't matter if he is British or American. You can jump on the bandwagon that your ancestors were enslaved and I agree many bad things happened to them, but the last time that I checked you had the same rights that every other red blooded american has. The comment that was by Bernard was socially wrong and he needs to apoligize for it.

Tim, did you READ what I said? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT BEING RACIST IS ALL ABOUT? AN INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT DOES NOT NECESSARILY EQUTE TO A RASCIST COMMENT. What about the part that ME, as both a BLACK AND a WHITE person did not feel that black kids were being RACIST when they called me "WHITE BOY". As many people have said, they were being IGNORANT, and STUPID, but RACIST??? No. YOU NEED TO READ my POST AGAIN. AND AGAIN. IT is YOUR IGNORANCE that infects your kids and the people around you. THAT is QUITE evident in your post. Besides, just ANSWER the question I posed about you being called a NAME outside of your ethnic group. Answer the question Tim. Would it REALLY BOTHER YOU ?? The answer is NO, and you know it !! That's ALL I'm talking about. Please, read the POST again. Learn something by listening to others, not by talking about issues that weren't even raised. Nobody was talking about "free rides" and "1000 years" etc etc. It just goes to show. Racism and discrimination and ignorance has MANY faces, thanks for showing yours.

Mr. Knight I don't want it to seem like I am teaming up on you with the Tim guy, but this topic is not about YOU. This topic is about comment that was made by Bernard Hopkins and it was a racial comment and he need to publically say he is sorry. The reason that I am saying this is because it shows how igornant Mr. Hopkins is. You know as well as I do that there are kids that look up to influences on television and do you really want your kids looking up to this.

Kane, you are joking right? Black people DO NOT have the same "rights" as white people. Yes, "on paper" they do, but for you and TIM and others - let me put it to you this way. WHEN was the last time you read or even HEARD of a story where like on MSNBC or DATELINE, 20/20 etc, you know, the ones where they send in a white person and a black person, with IDENTICAL CREDENTIALS and INCOME, EDUCATION, etc etc to apply for a loan, a job, rent an apartment, and the White person gets the loan at 8% interest and the black person is DENIED the loan or if he/she does get the loan, it's at 22% interest?! Where the white person gets the job, and the black person doesn't. Where the white person gets the apartment and the black person is told "oh, geez, it's already been rented out. Sorry". Come on people. Get real. It's NOT equal, and NEVER has been. Before you reply, just answer the question. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN/READ or HEARD THE ABOVE HAPPEN TO WHITE PEOPLE? Just ANSWER the question. Where have you seen a BLACK business/bank loan out money to white customers at a higher rate than black customers? Nowhere.

Brian, just shut up with the whining. Jesus you are beating a dead horse.

Kane, Tim. Let's try to get one thing straight. ALL I'm saying is just what JONATHAN also posted about, about what BH said, and that is that "Language WITHOUT POWER is like spitting in the wind." It's JUST NOT RACIST. Is it IGNORANT, yes. Is it STUPID, yes. But is it RACIST? No. And besides, I don't think you have to WORRY about every STUPID thing that a person says will affect your kids. The talk show radio hosts say stupid things, your neighbor says stupid things. You don't have to worry about stupid things. Let's save the real discussions for REAL issues. Let me ask you this Tim and Kane, have you EVER had a REAL discussion with your kids ABOUT the evils and the humiliation SUFFERED by black people due to slavery? The answer is probably no. Did you take your kids to see the movie AMISTAD ? Once again, the answer is probably No. And finally, think again about my comment about being called a name OUTSIDE of your ethnic group. It's NOT comparing apples to bananas. Is it an IGNORANT thing to say? ABSOLUTELY. Is it stupid, You BETCHA. And it's RIGHT ON THE MONEY as far as whether the slur is RACIST or not, because it ISN'T. The point being, it's not about whether the COMMENT is ignorant or stupid, it's whether it was RACIST or not. And in that scenario, it's just not. Get it now?

Yes Brian, there is still discrimination in America. It takes many forms. Studies show that I suffer from discrimination because I'm shorter than normal. However, great strides have been made in the last 50 years - just consider the current presidential nomination process. We have a black man and a woman as the top two candidates of the Democratic party.

Just because I'm not offended by the comment does NOT make it any less discriminatory. Why can blacks use the "N" word with each other? Is it any less demeaning? It's still wrong, regardless of who says it.

The point is that ALL people and races should show respect for everyone else. Giving Bernard a free pass on this is wrong. He is using a characterization based on the color of his opponents skin. He is trying to demean and belittle his opponent by using the term "boy". You may not accept this, but that's the way it is.

By the way, I'm not "white" either. I'm a Afro-Euro-American. My ancestors just left Africa about 100,000 years ago so I've lost my pigmentation.

Yassuh boss man Chuck. I's be real quiet frum now onn.

Hmm, yet another face. The "quit whining" face. The "get over it already" face. The "beating a dead horse" face. I can see how you could say that. It's never happened to you. And if it DID....now THAT's when you'd REALLY start to hear whining, sniffling, crying like a little girl. Like when people apply and have been accepted into HARVARD LAW, AND YALE LAW, AND CORNELL MED SCHOOL, AND PRINCETON, AND STANFORD, AND CAL TECH, AND MIT, AND VANDERBILT. Accepted by all the above, but they DIDN'T get accepted into U of MICH, and they find out it was because UM has an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION plan.......yeah, you guessed it. LET THE WHINE and Cheese fest begin !!! Hey, dude, just GET OVER IT, right ??

Brian, I was merely letting you know that the continuation of the slavery conversation was and is tiring everyone out. I applaud you for finding something that is current and a real problem. Universities like Michigan are a disgrace and they should be heavily penalized for this. But more importantly they should remove the individuals that are reponsible for the actions of the University of Michigan and others like it. So yes I am not ignorant but I choose to fight today’s battles instead of ones of previous generations.

to Mr. Knight. I am not here to debate whethere a comment with a racial overtone is more hurtful to a black or white person (it all depends on how a person takes the comment, some people have tougher skin then others. Me I could care less what anyone calls me). the problem I have with your comments is in your definition of a racist comment. So to clear up what a RACIST COMMENT is I offer the definition.

Racist Comment: When one person of a specific race, gender, ethnic background, etc. makes a derogatory comment about another person based on that persons race, gender, ethnic background, etc.

No where in the definition does it state that the person having the comment made about then had to have been enslaved for 400 years.

get it??

Hey, Mike. I agree with what you are saying, but you know what? I really don't want people to stop saying stupid things. There is WAY to much humor in stupidity. I won't want us to go around always being "PC" because all that is going to do is "sweep" the issues under the rug. It's really not going to address them, it's just going to cover it up. I'd much rather know where a person stands, right wrong or otherwise, rather than have them shake my hand and smiling at me, and all the while, cursing me out in his head. I agree, people should respect each other, etc etc. But not necessarily COMPLETELY. That's boring. I say, let's try and eliminate RACISM. Not necessarily STUPIDITY. Stupidity can be a learning lesson. You can sit your kids down and say "today, Mr. A said so and so, and that was not a nice thing to say and here's why......". "Now, yesterday, Mr. B said so and so, and it was a racist comment, and here's why.....". Just because a comment deals with race doesn't always make it racist. Yes, someone said it before, wrong is wrong, but you need to CORRECTLY identify what was wrong. Little johnny isn't going to learn very much if he says to you "hey dad, 2 + 2 equals 5, right?" and you say, no it's not Johnny, "2 + 2 equals 3."

Brian - I don't disagree with you on your last point. I think we've gone way overboard with the PC stuff. The problem for me is that everything has shifted 180 degrees in the other direction. It's become too commonplace for minorities to scream "racism" but then not hold themselves accountable for the same things. I honestly believe things are much better now but unless we hold all people accountable for such comments, then we are setting ourselves up for a return to the old ways. This will give people an "excuse" to continue their racist beliefs.

In your mind, you see the comment as stupid. In my mind, I see it as racist. I'm afraid we can only agree to disagree on this one.

Tony, how convenient that "your definition" of racism FITS your point exactly. Hmm. That's like saying the color orange...is well....it's orange. However, how's this for a reply. I agree with your def. but I will add one thing to it. + POWER. If it's definitions you want, check out the following link.

http://www.euroamerican.org/library/definitions_racism.asp.

Various definitions and variants of what you said however, they all include what you left out. POWER. Racism = PREJUDICE + POWER. Without Power, like I have said in the nearly half-dozen posts - language without POWER is like spitting in the wind. So, there is no NEED for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton to get involved. There is NOTHING BH can EVER say or DO to make anyone DENY this guy, Calzaghe, a loan, or a mortgage, or a job, or entry into a country club, or admission to a university, etc etc. GET IT ?? And the 400 years I was talking about refers to the 400 year head start in achieving POWER. The 400 year head start in achieving ECONOMIC POWER. SOCIAL POWER. The 400 year head start in achieving POWER from KNOWLEDGE and EDUCATION. The 400 year head start in achieving POLITICAL POWER. Get it?

Chuck, I'm glad that we agree that U of Michigan is an excellent University and that the people who run the Aff. Act. program should be applauded. It is great to see that other people like you, recognize that you can't give one group of people a 400 year head start over another group of people, and then one day just say "oops. sorry about the slavery thing. Lets all start fresh now. OK? Let's all just be equal now. OK? Just try to forget that you've been DENIED a QUALITY education for 380 years and lets all apply to MED school - evens stevens ok, and may the BEST QUALIFIED applicant get in?" Gee Chuck, guess who's going to get in EVERY TIME? Guess who is ALWAYS going to be the "BEST QUALIFIED" applicant. Some poor kid from city schools in NEWARK NJ, or some kid from Greenwich CT who attends EXETER ACADEMY?

Monkey in a tree.
Boxing ya lets give a dead sport some headlines.
Im sure king is behind it somehow.

Knight:

Power is knowing you do not have to fear anything you say. Power is knowing you have control in a situation. When it comes to racial comments now (not 60-400 years ago)a black person has all the power. Yes a few may say you were wrong and you should apologize for your stupid comment but you will never be persecuted for a wrong choice of words (ex. the tiger woods comment, stupid yes but was not ment to be racist yet is was construed that way). So in your def. of racism (predjudice + power) Hopkins was infact making a racist comment. it was predjudice because he said he can never loose to a white boy. Anyone can loose to anyone on any given day no matter their skin color and he had the Power in knowing what he said would not bring on a hail storm of contrversy. (only a few of us who are bored will blog and argure for hours on a website.) So any one who says that a black person does not have Power in a racial conversation now a days is just lying.They have the power and the use of fear. As for your college comments i agree it is a problem that the rich still benefit but when it comes down to it its not about black and white, it about rich vs. poor. There are plenty of poor white kids out their facing the same college and work problems as young black people. How about we worry about the bigger issue and that is rich vs. poor and its growing margin and not black vs. white (that battle is a slow process that is starting to work unlike the wealth issue which continues to spread)

What about the persecutions of Catholics? What about the Persecution of Protestants? What about Persecution of Jews? What about the Persecution of the American Indian? Long before American Slavery these events took place, but I guess history has a short term memory. How come when people bring up slavery, these people have no anger for the black Africans that sold these people to the white slave traders?

Ans as far as racism, most people who are racist either don't know it, or do not admit it. Our yougn friend here has shown us what true prejudice is: the fear of the unknown. History is filled with violence and prejudice, not just racism throughout the world. I have an idea, why don't we focus on black violence today and discuss the sins currently gonig on in Africa. You are alive because of your parents, and you are expected to honor the world of today. Stop living in the past and make today better for teh children of tomorrow. It is not ok to take the easy way out and blame something that happened generations ago. It was a terrible event. There have been many more terrible events since then. Racism itself is truly colorblind, ironically. Bernard made a racist comment, and unprovoked...He should apologize,adn the issue is not bigger than that

Dumb thing to say, period. Much bigger fish to fry than the words of a dimly lit boxer, period. Can't believe I actually wasted time posting this when I have work to do, period.

Tony and Knight.

I completely agree with Tony that black people today have all the power when it comes to anything that has something to do with racism. The problem is that as other people have pointed out, that power is being abused. I'll give you an example from my office (which has 10 employees, 4 of 10 black and 6 of 10 women). Recently one of the employees in our office had a problem with her boss. She felt she had to do too much work (even though her boss was doing more work, and staying late to cover the employee's work), so she started shouting at her boss in the office. When the HR department got involved, the employee claimed her boss was racist and filed an eeo violation against her. The violation was upheld, the boss was given a black mark on her record (which will probably end her career) and was forced to apologize to her employee (one thing to point out is the boss knew the employee before she hired her and went out on a limb and specifically asked for this lady to work for her, even though other people were better qualified). So even though the employee screamed at the boss just because she had to work a full day, caused unrest in the whole office, refused to do her work, and continually left early without permission, the boss had to apologize. Now that is power. This girl disrespected her boss, refused to do her work, and screamed at her, yet she was found to be the victim. And as someone who works with the boss on a regular basis, I know she isn't racist, and didn't discriminate against this employee. I think taking away responsibility from people because of historic misdeeds only makes the gap between races wider. When young white kids who are on the fence see black people getting away with things, or acting racist towards white people, don't you think that will push them towards a more racist point of view?

I don't think Hopkins saying "white boy" is wrong, I think his saying he won't lose to a white boy is. He is implying that all white people are inferior to black people.

And since everyone else is saying...I'm a "white boy" (mixed Mexican and white, but look very white) who grew up with a black family in a poor black and hispanic neighborhood, and married a jewish girl!!

This blog is absolutely rediculous. This has turned into a ethical power stuggle between one guys thoughts (Mr. Knight) and many of other people. Personally I think that Mr. Knight needs to jump down off the soap box and quit preaching about the 400 years in which he was not even involved in and start looking toward the future. The horse has been beaten to death. Welcome to the 20th century. We all know that if you are in the public's eye you have to be socially and politcally correct. Otherwise you are going to subject yourself to a verbal public whiplash. This topic of discussion has gone way to far and deep from where it began. Obviously there is a person in this group that has a "chip on there shoulders" so to speak. It is very important to know your history, but it is going to be a long life for you if that is all you have. The future is now.

Amen to that Mark. well put, I guess I'll chime in on what i am (a greek-american whose family came here less then 60 years ago and has no tie to the slavery in america yet every day I am assumed to be tied to it, now thats not fair). Peace be unto all.

I understand what Hopkins means even if the comment offends so many obviously sensitive people. The attitude displayed has been supported by black males down through time in this country. Yes it is a reflection of a time we all thought was long past gone. Unfortunately those of you who thought that was the case are dishonest or just ignorant. Even if Louis, Frazier, Ali never said so they felt the same thing. It was always more acceptable to get whipped by a black guy than a white one whether in the ring or in the street. Why? Because that was/is the only venue we had any real control of. We were able to take out our frustrations on the other guy who symbolized the scap he had to deal with outside the ring. Losing to "the man" in the ring too was totally unacceptable. The fact that your feelings are hurt is too bad. And for you "double standard" folks who are ready to label this sort of thing reverse racism so you can position yourself as victims too, forget it. You don't have the credentials to qualify. This is the kind of rot you can expect given our history. I wish to God we did not have this as our history. The only issue here is that Hopkins had the bad taste of saying what most feel.

Edward

I would agree with what you say if I believed Hopkins said that because he is so angry at "the man" and wanted to affect change in a corrupt society. But I don't. I think he said it because he believes white people are inferior to black people. That is the problem. It doesn't matter what race it comes from and I don't think he "had the bad taste of saying what most feel," becasuse I don't believe most black people feel white people are inferior, I think some do, and he showed his true colors. I'd say the same thing if a white person said it about a muslim. And I don't think you can compare his world the the world of Louis, Frazier and Ali. Louis grew up when black people were still segregated and second class citizens, Ali came up during the civil rights movement (when people, both black and white, were really fighting "the man"), and Frazier was a clean cut country boy.

Also, I think there is a double standard, and I don't say that to make myself a victim, because i'm not. The same way Hopkins isn't a victim.

Question. Let me ask Tony, Kane, Mark, et al. Would any of you trade places with a black person today if you could? Not as Michael Jordan, or Magic Johnson or a black movie star, just answer the question. Would you trade places, all other things being equal? No. Period. And why is that? I know you will all come up with some lame excuse about your appreciation for your own ethnicity, etc etc, but lets face it, NOBODY wants to be black, given the choice, if they could make it. Mark, if black people have so much "power" I am sure you would jump at the chance right? No. Rather, I'm sure you'd rather have the REAL POWER. Economic power. Social Power. Political Power. Wow, so a black person has the "power" to allegedly "say anything they want". I'll take the 400 year head start, a big bank account, a nice house in the suburbs, my kids going to nice schools ANYDAY over having the "power" to win an "EEO complaint" Whoopee. And I don't have a chip. Quite the contrary. I enjoy ALL the priviledges of being "white" because I am (half) and I look it (100%) and I talk it, I live it. And I have every right to speak honestly. I have seen BOTH sides of what it is like to be black and white in America. PS. Did you notice, not ONE person challenged ANY of the questions or hypotheses I put forward in my previous posts? Not one question was challenged or ANSWERED? Why, because of the inescapable conclusion is that my posts were generally correct?

Edward, I like what you said. I have always been told to think, before you speak. This is a prime example of that. Hopkins obviously doesn't have the ability of bitting his tounge. I personally don't take offense to what Hopkins said, but the inabilty to apologize for his actions is what shows his own ignorance. The history of both whites and blacks is not that great. There is nothing that I have done to anyone that would associate me with what happend 400 years ago. I am not happy that my ancestor purchased and sold slaves 400 years ago, but there is nothing that I can do about it today. The only way to move forward in our society is to think about the furture and work together.

Knight,

One person did answer your main question on the hopkins topic. The answer saying calling an irishman a "chink" being pointless. As for the others, I personally didn't answer them because I didn't think it would matter what I said to you on those topics, but if you wish...As for black people being denied loans, I was denied a car loan in college, I was told I had to have a co-signer to any loan. My step-father co-signed, and because of him I was able to get a great loan on a cheap little car. Why does this matter?? Oh yes, my step-father is black and I'm white. As someone else pointed out, it's rich versus poor that matters not the color of your skin. My step father isn't rich, but he was smart enough to watch his credit, get a good job (without getting an education, he went to vietnam instead), buy a house, a boat, and anything else he wanted. I guess he must have never met the bankers, because if they had seen he was black, they would have taken away everything and put him in chains!! (that last part is sarcasm obviously) In the end, it comes down to the choices an individual makes, and blaming racism, society, your parents, or anything else for your failures is just a way to take the blame away from yourself. And i mean that for all races and backgrounds. That's not to say that racism doesn't exist, it does. But not as much now as people like to make it seem. I see succesful black people, muslims, women, hispanics, and everything else in my line of work. As a matter of fact, as a white man I've been a minority in all of my jobs since high school.

Oh and I wouldn't trade places with a black man or woman not because of ethnic pride, hate of black people, or anything like that (I have too many ethnicities in me to choose just one), but because I like who I am and I like my life. And I bet there are a bunch of black people who like being black, just because you don't want to be black doesn't mean no one else does.

Knight you are an idiot.

Here is my FINAL post (applause). This is the last point I will make about Language + POWER making someone a racist. If BH was the President of GM and said "Ain't no way a white boy is going own a GM". Now THAT'S a racist comment. If Hopkins or Al Sharpton were the President of NBC TV and said "Ain't no white boy evey gonna be on 'Friends'". That is a racist comment. If Jesse Jackson were the President of Citigroup and said "Ain't no white boy ever gonna get a mortgage from Citi". Now that is a racist statement. Even if Hopkins were the head of the WBC and said "Ain't no way that white boy is ever going to get a shot at a Championship match". NOW THAT is a racist comment. As one of the previous people said, Hopkins' comment means that white people are inferior to black people". But again, where is the PROOF? Where is it that HOPKINS and all other black people have systemically discriminated and kept down millions of white people down for hundreds of years, let alone even 1 white person for even a minute. Where has HOPKINS been able to DENY even one white person anything? A mortgage, a house in an all-white heighborhood, access to the championship fight, a car, employment, etc etc. WHERE? Just answer the question. Hopkins has NO POWER. He can't deny anyone anything. Were his comments hurtful, insensitive, stupid, etc etc. YES. But Racist....??? Stop trying to justify your own insecurities.

Knight:

I would love to trade places with you. Apparently you have the best of both worlds you can play up your black side when needed and use your white side when needed. Sounds great to me. Ohh and by the way my family came here dirt poor 56 years ago. My grandfather worked as a merchant Marine to provide for my family. My father worked hard as a stock boy in a jewlery shop till one day he could open he's own small business and all the while he got the crap kicked out of him and was denied many things because he had a greek accent and lived in a area full of irish and itailans who hated him. So before you go questioning people make sure you know where they come from. My family raised themselves up from the streets and never put blame on anyone. And not all white people have this political power and social power you speak of. its only 2% of the white population who has the money to do and get what they want. the rest of us had to go to bad schools and work our way up hoping that college and the $60,000 debt that went along with it (due to the fact we are not black or hispanic and aren't given grants to get out of the ghetto) may get us a decent job. Stop lumping all whites in the same category its no more fair then me lumping all blacks (africans,jamicans etc) together. So to answer your question I would not trade places with someone of another color all things equal because if all things are equal as you state in your question then there is no need to switch. hope i have answered your question

Top cat??????? Top cat?? hahahahahaha. Who are you kidding? Bro, you are chicken little, you ain't no top cat. Maybe alley cat. or 'Fraidy cat. But Top cat??? hahahahahahahahahahaha

Ok, here is my final post too (applause). I guess by your rationale if I went to a black neighborhood and called someone the "n-word" it wouldn't be seen as racist since I don't have the power to deny a black person anything. Do you think the residents of that neighborhood would accept my reasoning if I explained it the exact same way you did?? Knight, you are the problem with America. You are the reason racism still persists in America. When you explain racism to your kids as you said earlier, make sure you let them know you helped keep it going. And if you fail in life, I'm sure you can just blame it all on whitey because he didn't like the black half of you (I hear they have internal radar to sniff out those types of things!!) As a matter of fact, I think that's a great idea!! I think if I fail in life I'm going to blame whitey for not liking "wetbacks" and using all of his "power" to hold me down, because I'm half mexican. This way I can go through life blame free for all of my actions!! You are with out a doubt one of the most pathetic creature in this country, but that's because of your choices, not because your half black or because of all the white man's "power."

I apologize to everyone else for taking up this space, but people making lame excuses for racism or failure in life just makes me mad.

MARK, Ok. This really really is my LAST post. You people just DON'T get it. Where did I ever talk about blaming others for your OWN FAILURES? Never ONCE did I say anything like that. Mark, did you even READ what I was saying about what I think makes a RACIST comment, versus one that is just plain stupid, ingnorant, or insensitive? Again, why are you people so INTENT on making and CATEGORIZING HOPKINS' remarks as RACIST? WHY?? To borrow a line "Me thinks thou dost PROTEST too much." Are you guys hiding some other insecurities that you are afraid of admitting to? Mark, in your example, if you were BLACK, and you went into a black neighborhood and used the N-word, what is the answer to your OWN question? Would that be considered a racist comment? Definitely NOT. But again, look at my above posts. See what I think MAKES a comment racist, even if coming from black people? I just don't know why you have to be SO intent on categorizing HOPKINS' comment as racist. Then, to top it off, you start talking about things I haven't even talked about. READ me back in any of my posts where I BLAMED ANYONE (whitey) for a person's own failures. Look and Read carefully. I may have ATTRIBUTED as a CAUSE the fact that black people were held back for 400 years and do not have the same social rights and economic power and political power as their white counterparts because of that. But what, would you even disagree with that statement? So, tell me where have I blamed whitey for a person's own failures? You are combining apples and oranges, why, because god forbid, you actually acknowledge that black people have been disadvantaged in this country for 400 years. Get over it. Admit it, and you'll feel better in the morning. Even then, I ONLY mentioned the 400 years of being slaves as a way to try and explain why, if you are a MINORITY, why it is HIGHLY HIGHLY improbable for that person to be RACIST, BECAUSE they just don't have the POWER to ENFORCE their prejudices. So, just because you can't or REFUSE to understand what I am talking about, don't call me pathetic and doomed to perpetuating racism. Nothing could be further from the truth, and again, it speaks of volumes about your own frustrations and lack of ability to address my points on an intellectual basis. Tell me. Tell me again, how people who DENY other people, based on the color of their skin, how I am WORSE than they are, simply because I DISAGREE with you in CATEGORIZING a persons comments as being RACIST or not? Not whether they were ignorant, stupid and uncalled for, but ONLY becuase YOU think they were racist and I think they were ignorant and stupid. Tell me how I'm a worse person? You, sir, have some explaining to do. Not once did I ever hear you criticize the person that does in fact DENY another person a loan or a job or keeps them out of an all-white neighborhood. I haven't even heard you ACKNOWLEDGE that those people even EXIST! So, you are right, since those people don't even exist, I guess I AM the worse person on earth. But even at that I'm still a far better person than you!

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I believe Knight is accurate in his assessment that this comment by the boxer was not a 'racist' comment. Some white people don't like to hear that they are priveledged just by being white. You don't need a million dollar house to have privilege. I know that I am priveleged and that I started with a leg up over many other kids. Despite what is preached about studying hard and applying yourself in school doesn't guarantee you anything when the playing field is not even and fair. Also, Civil Rights leaders are no more responsible for racism's existence in our society than a Soup Kitchen's cook is responsible for poverty. Do all the slammers of these leaders even know what these people do when they aren't in front of a camera? They have to get people's attention!! That's the whole point. No politicians talk about it seriously because it isn't in the interest of big business. People with status in communities need to raise these issues.

If a black person who owned a business denied selling merchandise to a white person because they were white, then I would agree that would be racist.

Knight,
First off, it would be racist if a black man called other black people the n-word. you don't seem to get that the color of your skin has nothing to do with who you hate. I can't help but think of the black cop in Boyz in the hood. Last time I checked, he was a villain, and no one liked him. Second, you have given vague examples of the atrocities black people face in america today. I gave you real world examples of black people in my office, and the fact that I'm a minority in my own agency. Someone else pointed out we have a black presidential candidate (who will probably win) and a woman running for president. Also, let's not forget the last two secretaries of state have been black, and one was a black woman, and this from republicans. Also,Third, I did say there was racism against black people, but my point was that it was no where near as bad as it was even 20 years ago. Here is the excerpt from my post ...

"That's not to say that racism doesn't exist, it does. But not as much now as people like to make it seem. I see succesful black people, muslims, women, hispanics, and everything else in my line of work. As a matter of fact, as a white man I've been a minority in all of my jobs since high school." (also, while i didn't criticize all white racists, even ones who deny black people loans, i did criticize all racists of any color, regardless of loan standings, but I did hear you support the racist remarks of one particular very rich black man, who the white man must have framed to get him into prison, and was never a slave. I guess that makes you racist against whites, since you're half white, you have half the white man's "power" which makes your racism real. you must be so confused??)

Now here are a couple of examples of you giving excuses. the first for hopkins comments, the rest for everything else that goes wrong for black people. ...

"When the day comes (or rather the 400 years) when black people have enslaved, humiliated, raped white female slaves practically in front of their husbands who were powerless to do anything about it, etc etc (see the movie ROOTS if you need more information) THEN, white people will have "earned' the right to call black people "racist." (obviously this one gives an excuse for black people to be racist, not to be mad about slavery, but to hate white people)

"Black people DO NOT have the same "rights" as white people. Yes, "on paper" they do, but for you and TIM and others - let me put it to you this way. WHEN was the last time you read or even HEARD of a story where like on MSNBC or DATELINE, 20/20 etc, you know, the ones where they send in a white person and a black person, with IDENTICAL CREDENTIALS and INCOME, EDUCATION, etc etc to apply for a loan, a job, rent an apartment, and the White person gets the loan at 8% interest and the black person is DENIED the loan or if he/she does get the loan, it's at 22% interest?! Where the white person gets the job, and the black person doesn't. Where the white person gets the apartment and the black person is told "oh, geez, it's already been rented out. Sorry". Come on people. Get real. It's NOT equal, and NEVER has been." (again, just to remind you, I gave you a real world example of a white person needing a black man's help to get a loan)

"...It is great to see that other people like you, recognize that you can't give one group of people a 400 year head start over another group of people, and then one day just say "oops. sorry about the slavery thing. Lets all start fresh now. OK? Let's all just be equal now. OK? Just try to forget that you've been DENIED a QUALITY education for 380 years and lets all apply to MED school - evens stevens ok, and may the BEST QUALIFIED applicant get in?" (obviously since, in your opinion, no black people were educated for 380 years the future generations can't either, and of course every black person turned down for a college was only turned down because they're black, not because there are better candidates)

"Wow, so a black person has the "power" to allegedly "say anything they want". I'll take the 400 year head start, a big bank account, a nice house in the suburbs, my kids going to nice schools ANYDAY over having the "power" to win an "EEO complaint" Whoopee." (and finally, all black people are still poor because of slavery)

Knight,
First off, it would be racist if a black man called other black people the n-word. you don't seem to get that the color of your skin has nothing to do with who you hate. I can't help but think of the black cop in Boyz in the hood. Last time I checked, he was a villain, and no one liked him. Second, you have given vague examples of the atrocities black people face in america today. I gave you real world examples of black people in my office, and the fact that I'm a minority in my own agency. Someone else pointed out we have a black presidential candidate (who will probably win) and a woman running for president. Also, let's not forget the last two secretaries of state have been black, and one was a black woman, and this from republicans. Also,Third, I did say there was racism against black people, but my point was that it was no where near as bad as it was even 20 years ago. Here is the excerpt from my post ...

"That's not to say that racism doesn't exist, it does. But not as much now as people like to make it seem. I see succesful black people, muslims, women, hispanics, and everything else in my line of work. As a matter of fact, as a white man I've been a minority in all of my jobs since high school." (also, while i didn't criticize all white racists, even ones who deny black people loans, i did criticize all racists of any color, regardless of loan standings, but I did hear you support the racist remarks of one particular very rich black man, who the white man must have framed to get him into prison, and was never a slave. I guess that makes you racist against whites, since you're half white, you have half the white man's "power" which makes your racism real. you must be so confused??)

Now here are a couple of examples of you giving excuses. the first for hopkins comments, the rest for everything else that goes wrong for black people. ...

"When the day comes (or rather the 400 years) when black people have enslaved, humiliated, raped white female slaves practically in front of their husbands who were powerless to do anything about it, etc etc (see the movie ROOTS if you need more information) THEN, white people will have "earned' the right to call black people "racist." (obviously this one gives an excuse for black people to be racist, not to be mad about slavery, but to hate white people)

"Black people DO NOT have the same "rights" as white people. Yes, "on paper" they do, but for you and TIM and others - let me put it to you this way. WHEN was the last time you read or even HEARD of a story where like on MSNBC or DATELINE, 20/20 etc, you know, the ones where they send in a white person and a black person, with IDENTICAL CREDENTIALS and INCOME, EDUCATION, etc etc to apply for a loan, a job, rent an apartment, and the White person gets the loan at 8% interest and the black person is DENIED the loan or if he/she does get the loan, it's at 22% interest?! Where the white person gets the job, and the black person doesn't. Where the white person gets the apartment and the black person is told "oh, geez, it's already been rented out. Sorry". Come on people. Get real. It's NOT equal, and NEVER has been." (again, just to remind you, I gave you a real world example of a white person needing a black man's help to get a loan)

"...It is great to see that other people like you, recognize that you can't give one group of people a 400 year head start over another group of people, and then one day just say "oops. sorry about the slavery thing. Lets all start fresh now. OK? Let's all just be equal now. OK? Just try to forget that you've been DENIED a QUALITY education for 380 years and lets all apply to MED school - evens stevens ok, and may the BEST QUALIFIED applicant get in?" (obviously since, in your opinion, no black people were educated for 380 years the future generations can't either, and of course every black person turned down for a college was only turned down because they're black, not because there are better candidates)

Quote from Mark:
" Now here are a couple of examples of you giving excuses....for everything else that goes wrong for black people"

GOES WRONG?! goes wrong is when you get a flat tire.

wow Mark. that's just..wow.

As a "White Boy", I get tired of everyone being so PC. Do I like what he said, no. Would I ever say anything like that, no. It doesn't what people say. That is part of what makes this country so great, Freedom of speech. I wish everyone would grow some thicker skin and we could say what we feel. If we did, I think there would be a lot less agression and anger in the world.

KNIGHT YOU ARE SUCH A P***Y STOP WHINING YOU PEOPLE ARE DESTROYING SPORTS AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE U TOUCH. READ JASON WHITLOCKS ARTICLE ON WHY THE BEST 3 TEAMS IN THE N.F.L.FOR 4 OF THE PAST 6 YEARS WERE ALSO THE 3 WHITEST TEAMS IN THE N.F.L.

WHO REALLY CARES?????

ITS CALLED:
FREEDOM OF SPEECH

EVERYBODY CARES TO MUCH. IF SOMEBODY IS RACIST WHO CARES, LET THEM BE IGNORANT. WE CAN JUST SIT BACK AND LAUGH AT THEM.

Klay

You're right, that is amazing, I can't believe that he'd say that either, I mean all of these problems can't be because the whole white race is conspiring against black people...oh wait., did you mean wow that I put that sarcastic remark about Knight blaming every black persons problem on slavery and the white man?? I'm sorry if you are offended, but Knight's examples are things that have gone wrong for specific people. I (and I literally mean myself in these examples)wanted to get a car. It all went wrong because I was denied a loan after having some things from rent a center go to collection. I wanted to get into college, it all went wrong because I didn't study in high school and instead was out committing various crimes in the streets. I wanted a lot of things, but they went wrong because of my decisions. But you know who's fault that was,...wait for it...it was my fault. It wasn't my dad's fault for being a druggie. It wasn't my mom's fault for not being able to afford a private school or nice clothes. It wasn't societies fault for leading my family astray. Those were all my choices. Some times bad things do happen because of racist people or other outside influences. But most of the time it's because of choices the person makes, not because of the color of the skin, no matter what color it is. The more you blame your problems on someone or something else, the longer it takes you to get ahead.

And, I agree with matt, I think Hopkins does have the right to say what he wants, and I think we are way too PC. I don't care that he called him a white boy (which oddly is the focus of the article, not that he said he could never lose to a white man) my only problem is when people freak out about a white man saying anything about a black my that could even remotely be construed as negative and made a racist remark. But when hopkins says something that clearly marks a whole race as being inferior, it's no big deal. I didn't care until knight said it was ok for black people to be racist, but not white people. All that does is perpetuate the problem. How about instead of saying black people are different (which things like this do) we stop pointing out the difference and work together to stop stupid people doing stupid things...on both sides. But that won't happen because of people like knight, on both the black and white side, who think black people, or anyone, deserves special treatment that sets them above a specific group of people.

FATJOEY IS FAT AND STUPID. RACISM ONLY APPLIES TO WHITE PEOPLE JOEY? SERIOUSLY? YOU ACTUALLY FORMED THAT SENTENCE AS IF IT WAS WELL CONSIDERED AND ACCURATE? YA DUMB FAT BASTARD

I know a few have said last post and then keep posting but here is my last. Mark thanks for putting everything in perspective on the last post. This whole us vs Knight thing started because he said a comment can only be racisit if you have enslaved that persons for 400 years or hold some sort of power over them. So i guess according to Knight white people can drop the N'bomb on Jamicans since they werent enslaved for 400 years and that would be ok because we do not have any power over a person from jamica. So thanks to knight all white americans can refer to french people as frenchies or english people as limies or italians as whaps and only worry about being called stupid or ignorant but we can't be racist for it. HAHAHAHA that makes so much sense.

On the brighter side i leave everyone with this. Doesn't Hopkins bare a striking resemblance to DMX in the picture above.

Hey, where are da white women at ?

It seems to me that Knight is confusing racism with discrimination. You can only discriminate by having power over another person and denying them something. Racism is an attitude that is projected. I also agree with many of Knight's comments, primarily that it's difficult to really feel that you have been treated in a racist manner unless you're life has been changed negatively because of your race. When I have been called a gringo in a derogatory manner, it didn't really bother me. However when my daughter couldn't attend the college of her choice because I make too much money then I feel discriminated against. The cause of the discriminatory feelings come from being denied what I feel that I deserve. Why should kids from other countries be given opportunities that my kid doesn't get? I pay taxes and support our economy what have they done for this country? That might not be the best example but what the hell, I've been wanting to get that off my chest for a long time. The other comment I agree with is the difference between stupid comments and truly racist comments. Let's not deny the value that the stupid have to offer! I enjoy at good laugh, too!

There is no double standard. Too many white people love to act like blacks are on even terms in American society, rubbish!!! That is pure denial and further agravates the pains of all the heinous and unspeakable and violent agression and control in the name of destiny. Blacks have a horrible past at the hands of white oppressors, less chance for any type of advancement unless they are the 'best' at whatever they do. If Hitler and Billy Crystal got together and called each others racial names, Crystal would have a right to say any and everything that spilled out of his mouth. Hitler should not say a damn thing, his damage was already done. However, no one should stupe to the lower than low standard that racist whites initiated and fueled;such allsuion to that level of ignorance and hatred should always be avoided. Choose something else to call your opponent out. Keep in mind Hopkin's past; not too much to expect in the way of grace and nobility, sad to say. The fists, however, will have the final say, and I think Calzaghe is far too elusive for B-Hop. Hop should apologize and show that he does have some class. That was cheap and small of him.

My sympathie lie with Knight.

I'm baaaaaaack !! Hey, Chris. You are 100% right. That's an excellent point and analogy. Hitler wouldn't have the right to say a darn thing. CLEARLY, Hopkins wasn't being racist. That was my ONLY point. But, Tony, Mark and the others are only trying to ENABLE and VALIDATE their own prejudices and racism by desperately needing to CATEGORIZE HOPKINS' comments as being racist. It's like the are proving...."Hey, 2 Wrongs DO make a right" like somehow their racist views are somehow validated or justified by saying, well look at this black person HOPKINS, he hates whitey, so I am justified in hating blackey. It's sad. Then, they have to jump on this soap box about how black people ALWAYS blame white people for their situation in life. Like that was even an issue here. Guys, you are in the WRONG blog for that issue. They can't even admit that they have enjoyed a 400 year HEAD START on everything in this country, and yet and still, they like to say "yeah, but I can't help what my ancestors did. Yeah, I feel bad, but there's nothing I can do about it", as you sit in the comfort of suburbia with 2 range rovers in the drive way, cash in the bank, nice job, nice country club..." BS. You can. You can volunteer to help black/minority inner city kids learn how to read to write It's just that you FEAR a strong black man. I got mine, now you (black people) get yours. When I hear people like Tony and Mark, I'm reminded of the saying that -- Here's a copule of guys that were BORN on THIRD base, and they think they hit a TRIPLE. Sad.

Oh yeah, a few more things Mark and Tony. NOWHERE did I say EVERY or NONE like you guys do. I was talking in generalities. You guys talk in absolutes, so that, i.e. if ONE black person has been educated in 380 years, then it's like somehow, the other 20 million blacks who were DENIED an education, then their claims are invalid because hey, there was that ONE black person who was educated, so it's not like NO BLACK person has never been educated. Or as if I'm saying hey, maybe out of 100 black people who were DENIED a loan, yeah, maybe 80% of them didn't qualify just because they didn't meet the criteria, white black or otherwise. But the 20% were denied or offered rates SUBSTANTIALLY above what white people were offered. You guys like to ignore the 20 and FOCUS on the 80. Let me ask you this again, as I posted this question before. Which do you think is the MOST fair. A white person applies to 10 Ivy league schools and is accepted at 9 out of the 10. And lets say the ONLY reason he didn't get accepted at the 10th school, was because they had to reserve the spot for a minority candidate. Now, lets say that SAME minority candidate applied to they same 10 Ivy league schools. And lets say, the white persons grades were marginally to quite better, an 96 average compared to a 91 average for the minority kid. SAT scores were again in favor of the white kid 1550 to 1470. Now, the minority kid was turned down by all 9 of the other remaining schools save the one. Now, here's the question, should the white kid sue and better yet, do you think he should WIN his "reverse discrimination" lawsuit?

This is the thrust of the whole issue. And by the way, don't forget to bring your CHRISTIAN values with you when you are thinking about this question and see how if you add Jesus and his whole message about helping the poor, the DISADVANTAGED, etc etc to the mix, how it would change your initial answer to the question (if at all). Mark, Tony....I await your replies.

Knight,
Plain and simple... You are a racist... and you are a jackass...
Have a good evening...

I really think this will be my last post. One final comment. The reason why comments like Hopkins don't bother me, and for the same reason as an all-100% looking white kid (even though I am half/half) growing up and was called it so many times by black kids in the neighborhood that I thought "white boy" was my middle name or something, the reason why that comment never struck me as being racist, is really because 1) he ACTUALLY SAID IT and 2) because he doesn't have any POWER to enforce his stupid comment. Nor did the other kids I grew up with. Now, you may be wondering huh?? But he said it. And yes, THATS my point. He SAID it. I am more concerned, and what this writer ABRAMHAMSON and many other people who have responded opposite me should be more concerned about are the people who aren't necessarily as STUPID as HOPKINS is by SAYING racist comments or what may be perceived by some as RACIST, but are DOING or NOT DOING things that are DEFINITELY Racist. You know, the SMART people who wouldn't EVER SAY what they think about black people, but yet instead, they DENY loans, DENY opportunity, DENY Affirmative Action, DENY Quality Education to minorities, refuse to PROMOTE a minority person. Even things like perpetuating sterotypes in movies. Casting minorities as the thugs and rapists in movies. How about all those Rocky movies. What was the skin color of his OPPONENT in what, like 7 of the 9 Rocky movies. A BLACK MAN. Gee, why was that? Answer that one Tony. It's THOSE people who scare me with their RACIST actions, not something a thug and loudmouth like HOPKINS says.

Jason Small Peter - It takes one to know one. Have another drink or 8 and go to sleep and try and still feel good about yourself in the morning. Remember, like it says in the good book..."yet as yea do to the least of mine, yea do unto me." Remember that the next time you are ignoring/discriminating a black person. He or she just might be Jesus.

It's guys like you who write a nonsense blog about what is racist that are the real racist. this is a statement coming from a sports athlete-behind closed doors Calzaghe is saying the same thing! Hopkins does not have to apologize to anyone. this is really going to be a good fight-2 skilled guys with legacies attached to them getting in the ring to fight! Alan get your head out your ass(cause you're the only guy complaning about this issue) and comment about some real topics! How about Obama winning the presidency-can you handle a black man in the white house? or were you offended when he called Edwards a white boy too?

I'm sure Hopkins will apologize after the fight. Until then, Quit crying about it. Stop wining about how if the roles where reversed there would be outrage? It's not the same thing at all. I'll tell you what. Go be the black mans bitch for 500 years and then you can say it's the same thing. You guys are the same people who cry about Al Sharpton coming to the rescue when theres -REAL- racial injustice. Yet 1 comment from a boxer who grew up in a violent black ghetto, Who did 5 years in a real prison and theres 10 million articles about how wrong it is. Please, If you morons want to go on a crusade to right some wrongs I'm sure you can find more important ones then this. Where's all the stories about the British booing our national anthem at the Mayweather Hatton fight? You could start there. I believe anyone getting this upset about it is racist themselves and would like to justify there own thoughts and feelings. Why else would you care so much?

I've looked at the comments that many of you posted several times and I'm in between appalled and shocked base on the fact that this is still such a big subject today and everyone, everywhere is weighing in. Guess what...consider the source first!! Lastly, I'm in Iraq attempting to ensure we ALL remain safe from ignorant people and loving what white, blacks, mexicans, nicaraguans, ecuadorans, filipinos, etc. I just THANK GOD we are not over here tripping on color of someone who may save my rectum this very day!! At least the majority of us are "colorblind". God bless the USA! By the way, I'm black as well...

Oops...got caught up and made a few boo boos!

I've looked at the comments that many of you posted several times and I'm in between appalled and shocked based on the fact that this is still such a big subject today and everyone, everywhere is weighing in. Guess what...consider the source first!! Lastly, I'm in Iraq attempting to ensure we ALL remain safe from ignorant people and loving what whites, blacks, mexicans, nicaraguans, ecuadorans, filipinos, etc., are doing to assist as well. I just THANK GOD we are not over here tripping on color of someone who may save my rectum this very day!! At least the majority of us are "colorblind". God bless the USA! By the way, I'm black as well...

Knight you win a small battle by making me go against my word after saying last post but I guess I must answer some questions. first off to all who automatically assume I must be racist because my agruement is you can make a racisit comment no matter what color your skin is, is just crazy (I am not going to say I have alot of black friends because I do not. I have some and some of them are very close to me and I would trust them more then alot of my White friends, I judge people based on their actions and thought patterns not skin color,) I am not saying blacks have it better then whites. I am not saying there was no oppression, i am not saying life for alot of blacks is worse then life for whites. What I am saying is the world is changing and it is because of the openmindedness of my generation. trust Me when i say it will only get better when the younger generation is holding office and is the head of a bussiness (its to bad but many old racist are in power, but the tide is turning Ex. presidential campain, ex black muslim oriental indian doctors, lawyers etc.) is the world perfect no is it getting better yes. Do i care about what Hopkins said, no Im glad he is honest I wish everyone could be. I once again have a problem with someone telling me that the comment did not have a racial overtone because it was a black guy saying it to a white man. period thats all. (ohh and Hopkins does have power, its the power of the media to generate all this hype) and for knight and his Rocky analogy you could have choosen something better. A) in Rocky 1 and 2 he faced the same black man who was wealthier with more power and a higher class status (not to mention loved by all the fans). Big home money and everything Knight sees as power. Rocky was a poor imigrant kid. so for 1 & 2 your theory is shot. Rocky 3 with clubber I give you that one. Rocky 4 & 5 was a russian and a poor white kid, theory shot again. Rocky six you half got it right. it was a black guy who was the Bad guy but ohh thats right he won the fight and the respect of everyone in the end. And knight show some facts about this nine out of 10 college thing. I know for a fact I went to a good college were white men were a minority and that alot of us got denied to go because of who we were and not our scores. your comment actually proves a point although not the one i believe you were going for here is what you wrote
"And lets say, the white persons grades were marginally to quite better, an 96 average compared to a 91 average for the minority kid. SAT scores were again in favor of the white kid 1550 to 1470. Now, the minority kid was turned down by all 9 of the other remaining schools save the one. "
If one person grades are better then anothers then the person with the better grades should get in 10 out of 10 times. You should have asked if it is fair if the black kid had the higher scores and was still kept out then I would agree with you. And my last question to knight do you really believe every white person lives in the subarbs with a range rover and huge bank account? or is that just you trying to make some point? last time a checked there were alot of poor white folks in the US who did not have a 400 year head start and still scrap by day by day trying to make a better life. I will agree that the 2% of the rich out there with a 400 year head start do have it better but do not ever associate me with those people just because I fit their look. check my other posts and see what my family went through.

Tony, I don't know whether you realize this, but yes, you are a closet racist. If you think a white kid who's already gotten into 9 out of the 10 Ivy League schools they have applied to, 90% of what they want, and that that's NOT FAIR, they should get 10 out of 10?? At the EXCLUSION of some poor black kid who only got 1 out of 10, then yes, you are a closet racist. You want white people, whom I'm sure that is how you project yourself to be and who you align yourself with, to have it ALL ! And that is why YOU are the racist and not me. I say let's be fair. Share the wealth. You say, like most white people who again, were BORN on 3rd base but for some reason, think that they hit a TRIPLE, "I GOT MINE, NOW YOU GET YOURS" !! Again, Tony, is that what the good Lord would want ?? Answer THAT part of the question. Show me where in the New Testament, Jesus was talking about Get EVERYTHING you can, because there's not enough to go around. Get it ALL, and KEEP it all !!! Do some history bro. Part of the REASON the USA was founded some 250+years ago, was on the NOTION that they were TIRED of the PERMANENT ARISTOCRACY that had permiated England, France, Spain, etc etc for THOUSANDS of years. This country said HEY, we can DO BETTER than that. And now 200 years later, people like you, who are on the cusp of attaining a modicum of wealth, and now you want to HOLD ON TO ALL OF IT, like there's NOT ENOUGH to go around. Of ALL the things you have posted, this one disheartens me the most, and PROVES my point the BEST.

Ok knight show me where I said I want it all. I never said the white kid should get into all ten colleges do not twist my words to try and prove your point and I do not associate myself with a certain group i assoicate myself with good people, if your a good hearted person then you and I are the same, if your a jerk who likes to cause problems and has no respect for others then i will not associate with a person like that. What I said if you look closely is that it should only be based on the person's achievements (I know it isnt always based on achievement alone and if I had the power and enfluence to help that change I would unfortuantley i am a low level employee in the newspaper industry who is trying to start a family and maybe make a good life for myself and family the fact that me and my girl are over 60g's in debt due to college and scraping every penny each month to get by kinda stops me from helping others (mommy and daddy didnt give me millions and set me up for life, They gave me morals and a strong work ethic). If my grades and SAT scores are higher then yours I should get in. If yours are higher then mine then I should NOT be allowed entrance. Thats all I said. Also I never said you were racist I said you did not understand that a black person can make a racist comment. and finally your right there is plenty of money to go around. How about instead of arguing with me and asking me for some of the $500 i have left in my bank account we band together and go propose to all the CEO's and Entertainers, atheletes, and movie stars with all the money who are black white brown yellow green purple blue violet and red to share the wealth. I repeat I am not one of the 2% of America who has the wealth. I according to us figures (since you like facts so much) are not even in the middle class. So stop lumping me in with the few rich folks that have hurt you so much.

PS your question about Jesus. I follow what the good book says and treat people with respect and decency. I listen and try and help ever good person I can within my ability. Maybe you should look again at the book and find were it says you should not label people without knowing who they are or what they have done for others.

Yeah when neighborhoods are flooded intentionally twice you see "How far we've come"

knight,
i kinda see your reasoning, unfortunately no black boy could ever convince me what he said is alright. don't worry, my comments are just stupid, not racist. i don't have power over anyone's well being.
by the way, your 400 year head start theory sucks too. life started in africa. by your reasoning, africans should be the dominant power in the world.

Hey everyone did you know Strom Thurmond had a mixed race child with his sixteen year old live in maid. What a great American.....racist

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knight,
i kinda see your reasoning, unfortunately no black boy could ever convince me what he said is alright. don't worry, my comments are just stupid, not racist. i don't have power over anyone's well being.
by the way, your 400 year head start theory sucks too. life started in africa. by your reasoning, africans should be the dominant power in the world.

This just in the KKK plans to kill Barack Obama. They are harmless though. They just dress up they never actually lynch anyone in the back of an alley......I like chicken, I like Liver. White people act strange when faced with white guilt

He should be able to say anything he wants to, it's called freedom of speach. It was a stupid, bragging comment made from one opponent to another designed to stir things up. It shouldn't have been commented on, period. If he had said white "man" would you have been so upset? The media makes too much out of simple comments. He isn't in a position of power, he's a boxer. Who cares what he says? I'm tired of everyone playing the race card. Not every white person is racist, not every white person had slaves or supported slavery. White people fought their fathers, brothers, cousins etc killing them and getting killed themselves to give the slaves their freedom, and yet all whites are lumped together. What about all the Africans that gathered up their countrymen and sold them to the whites? Why aren't you upset with them? Besides, it all happened a long time ago. Yes it was a horrible thing, but it didn't happen to you or anyone in your immediate family unless they are really, really old and I didn't do it and all the ones who did are dead, so it is time to get down off that cross, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT.

Hey Tony. Actually, I haven't been "hurt" by a few (or a lot, for that matter) rich folks, and that's my point exactly. I AM living the American Dream. I have a nice bank account, live in a terrific neighborhood, great schools, neighbors with the 2 range rovers in the driveway (not me, I prefer AMERICAN MADE), etc etc. THAT IS ME, I'm talking about. I have enjoyed TREMENDOUSLY the fruits of being white preson(98%-looking), and yes, a hard work ethic, yada yada yada. I graduated 20+ some-odd years ago, $25K in debt, my first job I was earning $17K a year. I have no anger, I have not been hurt. By all standards, I should really give 2 craps less about this topic, because it doesn't affect me at all. But, I will tell you this. I am the equivalent of the CIA's "IVAN" theory. Remember in NO WAY OUT? The CIA theory that the russians had some Russian kid raised in america for all his life, all-american, clean-cut, could pass for an all-american type, but was after growing up, he was supposed to infiltrate the Government and was actually a "mole" for the Russkies? Anyway, that is like me. When I'm around white people, I hear the "N" jokes, the off the cuff remarks, I see how they discriminate, I walk into small offices that are all white, and I see these same people in church, and they would NEVER in a million years consider themselves racist. And you know why? Because they don't "hurt" anyone. They think they are "good people". I say no, that's a misnomer. They aren't really "good people", they just aren't "bad people". They don't "hurt anyone" per se, but they just don't really help anyone either, unless they can stand to "benefit" from it. And there is a BIG difference between the 2. It's like this, people think because they are walking down the street, and they don't rob someone or steal from someone or murder someone, that they are "good people". They also think if they walk down the street and pass by the person that was just robbed, now, they don't stop to HELP that person, they just walk by and think to themselve, "well, I'm a good person. I would NEVER rob or steal from someone. I go to church every sunday, I put money in the collection plate, I serve as a deacon and say my prayers every nite". That that makes them a good person. Wrong. It just makes them "not a bad person". Here is a "good person". The GOOD person is the one who stops to HELP the person who was just robbed. Here is a "good person". The Good person says, "hey, I just got into 9 out of the 10 BEST schools in the country. Now, here is someone who is tremendously more DISADVANTAGED than I(i.e. liken to the "robbed" person in the first scenario), a minority from the inner city, and thie person was TURNED AWAY from the 9 out of the 10 BEST schools in the country. You know what, I don't NEED all 10, let the other person have a chance." THAT is HELPING the person who was just robbed. That my friend, is what being fair is all about. It's not just SAYING or THINKING nice things, it's when the RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. You DO the RIGHT THING. It's about ACTION and DEEDS. It is about practicing what you preach. It is a sacrifice, a small gesture that says, yes, I do MORE than just "feel bad" for your 400 years of slavery, here's a little contribution on my part to help make things better for someone less fortunate than I. Geez Tony, is that so hard to comprehend? Why do we all have to act like animals in the wild after a fresh kill? Like I said before, you can't legislate good behavior. You can't read minds. So, until that day comes, you have to have a way to ENSURE that EVERYBODY gets to sit at the TABLE and EAT. Like CIVILIZED people. So, if the white kid has to sit out of 1 Ivy League school after getting his/her pick out of the other 9, hey, no sympathy there. I guess he or she will have to "suffer" through choosing between HARVARD, CORNELL, PRINCETON, BROWN, DARTMOUTH, Etce etc etc. Hey, I'd like to have had to "suffer" throught those choices, as I'm sure you would have too.

By the way, I hear you about just trying to make it one day at a time, raising a family, etc etc, just don't forget about those that are STILL a lot LESS fortunate than you, bro, that's all. Take care.

Knight:

Im glad we are in agreement finally on something. but just an FYI i havent forgot about those less fortunate then me. I help all people less fortunate then me whenever I can. Actually I live much closer to those people then you do aparently (none of my neighbors can afford a range, but thats neither here nor their it appears we have seen alot of the same things when the only people in the room are white) so please do not ask me to not forget about these people I can't forget about them because we all live in the same area together. I also apologize for assuming you went through ruff things at the hands of some rich folks (no one should speak unless they have the facts my bad). Be good it was a fun descussion no matter how heated it got at points. peace

Are all the people who went through Jim Crow dead? They really need to get over that too. Who remembers what happened in the 50's let alone what happened in New Orleans. Sheesh people get over it. Just because your brother was lynched in 1960 doesn't mean the KKK is racist. The Tulsa riost were just a little dust up. Get over it city schools are awesome.

Tony, same here bro. One last brief point. And an IRONIC one at that. Actually, I took a HELLUVA beating (verbal, not physical, of which those, I won some, I lost some...) at the hands of the black kids I grew up with. Like I said in previous posts, I thought white boy was my middle name or something, and if you think about it, I should probably have grown up HATING blacks. But I didn't and I don't. I always felt sympathy for them. I felt sorry. Like how sad. To have such a miserable existence at the hands of white people because they knew, from their parents who had migrated North from the South, about the deep-seated prejudices and racism blacks suffered at the hands of white people. I saw and knew of the pain my father, a black man, suffered at the hands of whites, even in the ARMY in WWII, where he served in a SEGRAGATED ARMY, yes in the United States not some 60 years ago. And the only way to lash out, to assert some form of self-worth, so to speak, was for their kids, my peers, to verbally abuse a "mixed-race" kid who happened to look all white and some of the other poor white kids. I knew they could never really "hurt" me, they never had any "POWER." That's why for me ESPECIALLY, I was not offended, at least not RACIST -wise, by what HOPKINS said. On other levels as I have said repeatedly, it was stupid and ignorant, and even part of trying to get inside the head of his opponent, but RACIST ???? NO WAY, and I will always believe that. I will not try and convince anyone, not you even you anymore, but really, as a person who has experienced those VERY SAME WORDS, it wasn't racist.

It was interesting. Very. Peace.

To all who read the war of words between me and Knight I hope we can all realize that people can have two completely different point of views on a subject and its definition and in the end agree to disagree yet more importantly have respect towards each other. I hope all can learn from this small debate.

It's sad that this is what black youths in our country are looking up to as a role model. I'm not surprised that he refused to apologize. It would've required him to be an intelligent, brave, and respected athlete, which he is obviously NOT!

AND WHAT DO WHIT'E LOOK UP TOO, THE NOOSES THAT'S BEING HUNG AROUND HERE OR THE COPS THAT BEAT RONDEY KING.

YOU SHOULD NEVER OPEN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT LOOKIN UP TOO ANYTHING LIKE THIS CLOWN!!!!

I wish I had all the time in the world like you guys to argue about this minutia. Do you guys have jobs and families and things like that ?
fun times.

people like Brian are the reason the Nazi's who made up only 14%% of the country were able to committ genocide on the Jews who had far more money and power. Hey, the Jews had been stealing from and raping the German Aryan people for years, it's okay to single them out for their ethnicity.

As a Native american I think the coward that is
knight is unmatched.
Hpokins has more power that any poor person in the US. No question no debate that is fact. You can sit around your cowardly double standards and talk about oppression "white boy". That is right I am only .25 white and so that means my words are truth and yours are lies.

The ghetto is weak, live on a reservation. With a people that have the lowest life expectancy in the US. A people that black soilders did not have a problem raping, murdering and killing just like their white comrades. Or spreading their disease just like their European brothers.

So since I have no social power, so I can identify you as racist punk coward who would
bend knee to a man of the sky clan. I have no social power so my insults to your ignorant black African arse is entirely justified. Remember your people had the power to rape and kill us native Americans, But i am sure you will pull a double standard out like the coward you are.

You are so stupid and inbreed like a ignorant white poor trash you cam from, you can't even smell your own white boy BS.

Remember you are in my land and my country and if it hurts you to much go back to Europe or africa you ignorant racist white boy. Boy not a man.

I would tell you what my sky chief would say but your ignorant white/black arse lacks the mental capacity to even give a rational thought.

You walk on my country and talk your self hating white boy bs.

Hopkins has more social power than 90% of the people in teh country. That is undeniable. without question, but your ignorant white boy arse can't get past it.

If you think a rich multimillionaire has no power then you have no right arguing a point like you are a rational human.

who as the power when black comment more violent crimes against every group in the us?

By your definition Asian(socail justice who commits more crimes blacks to asians? or asian to blacks? Justice??)have a right to prejudge blacks.

and native Americans have every right to judge you and hate your black/white arse because of the way you where born.

Remeber you have no right to be on the land you walk on. Your people , the black and the white raped murdered and killed native americans. Buffalo soilders where just black custer's little black murders.

(think really hard why the brown ain't down with black no more. Watch the gang warefare and how MS-13 is stomping the sexist, racist black gangs out of Cali. They love the word hoe so much because it describes them.)
We had no social power so our actions are justified. It's not racism to hate you and prejudge you black/white boy.

If you want to talk about social power, quite whining like cowards and be men and stand for your selfs with actions not empty words.
)Play these race games and your arse will be on the curb to. If you want to break it down all the way. Cause this will be a brown country and you hatfull homophobic sexist culture can hide behind "whitey" till the end of time.

The debate was "interesting"--quite a light into the minds of many. That's nice. However, as for the question at hand, I feel it isn't whether the comments of the boxer was racist or not (though I have more than two-cents to add there) but rather if he should apologize (which I could see could directly tie-in with whether or not it was racist...or not... again). But this APOLOGY!? SHOULD HE???

The answer: NO
The reason: He doesn't want to.

My reasoning: Whether a person is right OR wrong, he must come to this decision of apologizing ONLY if it is from the conscience of his heart.If not, it is mere APPEASING. Where has that gotten us? We've been "wear[ing] the mask that grins and hides" in this country to be "correct." However, Sweet or stinging to the ear, I'll take how you TRULY feel. Whatever I think of you should not matter. APPEASE ME NOT. I lose more respect for a man that says what he does not mean.

Sooo....he should not be "pressured" to apologize. That in itself is ignorant. Thats like forcing a kid to say "sorry" for something you know he full well would do again.

Message: Be true to yourselves.

My race?...It really doesn't contribute or diminish....as it shouldn't. For what value should my race put to my argument? ...And its sad that it actually does though. :<

Shame on our MEDIA for not OVERHYPING this like they do when white people make a comment that wasn't even meant to be racist... If it were a white guy, his boxing license would be taken away. I hope this guy gets pounded in this fight in a way he never forgets! Also, YES. He should be FORCED to apologize, and say how he insulted so many people unintentionally, just like white people have to do... I don't care if he wants to or not.

I think its totally rediculous that black people feel that they have the right to say whatever they want about white people because of what happened hundreds of years ago my family came over here from italy in the 1950's they had nothing do with what went why so should they have to pay for it, by being called names that they can't react to. If that comment was reversed everyone would have flipped out. But Calzaghe cannot say anything back to a comment like that because of what happened a hundred years ago, when he was not even born yet(plus he has a lot more class than that). I am not racist I have plenty of black friends and they don't call me white boy are anything else for that matter because they have class and are respectful, which bernard hopkins has none of. He's not a champion kids should look up to, a good champ was evander holyfield or Oscar De la Hoya very classy always said the right thing always showed respect, thats a champion, a person who respects the sport and all who participate. I understand you have to sell tickets but there are ways of doing these things, calling out a boxer in one thing but calling out a whole race is another and the said thing is nothing will happen because he said it, and of course he wont apologize. A person like him wouldnt you have to expect that from him. He's a great fighter always has been but not a great champ or role model.

Once a stupid nigger, always a stupid nigger.